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DAY #27: Matthew Chapter 26; Mark Chapter 14 ; Luke Chapter 22; John chapter 18

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<< w21 7/15 #15 par 5 [Final Words] >>

“ And he said to him: “Truly I tell you today, you will be with me in Paradise” - Luke 23:43

- Jesus was not in paradise that day (he was dead for parts of three days)
- Jesus had already expressed his belief he would be in the grave 3 days
- as [myth-one.com] pointed out here, the conversation in question is indicative of a future event*

Note: Neither the "thief" nor Jesus was expected to die before the end of that day (the Jewish day ended at sunset)

Further forum guidelines point out that reference to the original language does add weight to an argumentation and in greek (since there is no punctuation) the source language (greek) allows for alternative punctuation. In other words the greek language by virtue of its structure dictates that the comma can legitimately be placed whereever the translator wants. By moving the comma to after the word today, the focus of the phase can be changed to harmonize with the context and doing so violates nothing in regard to the original language.

All translations are not equal and just because the majority of translators may make an alternative decision, this does not necessarily mean that the reasoning above is false.

Quote:
"And he said to him: “Truly I tell you today, you will be with me in Paradise." - New World Translation
wol.jw.org/en/wol/b/r1/lp-e/nwt/E/2013/42/23#v=43

Online Discussion
www.textkit.com/greek-latin-forum/viewtopic.php?t=889

Comma placement
jimspace3000-ya.blogspot.fr/2011/09/based-on-teachings-of-christ-and-bible.html

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Matthew 27:38-44

Mark 15:27-32

Luke 23:39-43

John 19:23-24

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"But whoever disowns me before men, I will also disown him before my Father " - Matthew 10:33

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"A father of the fatherless and a protector of widows is God in his holy dwelling." - Psalms 68:5

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Luke 23:49 ; John 19:25

Mary (Jesus mother), Salome, Mary Magdelene and Mary Alphaeus

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<< jy chap 132 p. 300 [Mother] >>


"But whoever disowns me before men, I will also disown him before my Father " - Matthew 10:33

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<< w21 7/15 #15 par 7 [Final Words] >>

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Salome & Mary Alphaeus [Mother of James the less], Mary Magdelene

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"But whoever disowns me before men, I will also disown him before my Father " - Matthew 10:33

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<< Simeon's Prophecy [Mary's Pain] >>

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"But whoever disowns me before men, I will also disown him before my Father " - Matthew 10:33

McClintock & Strong Vol II "Crucifixtion" p. 591
vol II
books.google.fr/books/reader?id=YhVWAAAAMAAJ&hl=fr&printsec=frontcover&output=reader&source=gbs_atb

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3PM: DARKNESS Death [Friday Afternoon, Nisan 14]

3PM: DEATH [Events] [Friday Afternoon, Nisan 14]



Day 27: Burial [Joseph of Aramathea] [4 PM]

Day 27: Burial [Friday Afternoon, Nisan 14]

Day 28: Resurrection [The Women] [Before Dawn, Sunday Morning, Nisan 16]

Day 30: Pentecost [Upper Room] >>

LETTERS [Index] >>

Cornelius [Acts Chapter 10] >>

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