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Post by Admin on Jun 27, 2016 6:54:22 GMT -5
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Post by Admin on Jun 27, 2016 6:54:35 GMT -5
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Post by Admin on Jun 27, 2016 6:54:49 GMT -5
I am not aware of another ahistorical figure in antiquity that was invented within a few decades of their alleged time of existence, outside the case of Jesus. Most mythical figures were dated to centuries before the present, such as distant Roman kings, heroes fighting around Tory, etc. Richard Carrier has argued that the reason other mythical figures date back so much later is because they are usually associated with things like a Heroic Age (e.g. Hector and Achilles) or a time of founding a people or city (e.g. Moses and Romulus), which will always be placed considerably before the present. It is not unusual to read posts here calling into question whether Jesus of Nazareth was a historical figure. Although references to Jesus Christ by early secular historians are meager, such references do exist and few serious historians actually doubt that Jesus existed Cornelius Tacitus**, a respected first-century Roman historian, wrote that the Roman emperor Nero ‘fastened the guilt for the burning of Rome on Christians,’ and then Tacitus explained: “The name [Christian] is derived from Christ, whom the procurator Pontius Pilate had executed in the reign of Tiberius.” “Early Talmudical accounts” of Jesus confirm ‘both the existence and the general character of Jesus.’ -Jesus of Nazareth, p. 20 (Jewish scholar Joseph Klausner) While Polemic references to Jesus in the Talmud are accepted as genuine by certain scholars only, references to Jesus by Tacitus*, Suetonius, Pliny the Younger, and at least one by Flavius Josephus**, are generally accepted as proof of the historical existence of Jesus. The Encyclopædia Britannica thus concludes: “These independent accounts prove that in ancient times even the opponents of Christianity never doubted the historicity of Jesus, which was disputed for the first time and on inadequate grounds by several authors at the end of the 18th, during the 19th, and at the beginning of the 20th centuries.”—1974 Edition, Vol. 10, p. 145. ======================================... ** “Christus [Latin for “Christ”], from whom the name [Christian] had its origin, suffered the extreme penalty during the reign of Tiberius at the hands of one of our procurators, Pontius Pilatus.”—The Complete Works of Tacitus b. 56 died 117, (New York, 1942), “The Annals,” Book 15, par. 44. * The first-century Jewish historian Josephus referred to the stoning of “James, the brother of Jesus who was called the Christ.” (The Jewish Antiquities, Josephus, Book XX, sec. 200) more m.wol.jw.org/en/wol/d/r1/lp-e/2013208 |
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Post by Admin on Jun 27, 2016 6:55:05 GMT -5
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Post by Admin on Jul 23, 2016 2:41:00 GMT -5
We quote the following from his Annals (XV.44).
“And so, to get rid of this rumor, Nero set up [i.e., falsely accused] as the culprits and punished with the utmost refinement of cruelty a class hated for their abominations, who are commonly called Christians. Christus, from whom their name is derived, was executed at the hands of the procurator Pontius Pilate in the reign of Tiberius. Checked for a moment, this pernicious superstition again broke out, not only in Judea, the source of the evil, but even in Rome.... Accordingly, arrest was first made of those who confessed [to being Christians]; then, on their evidence, an immense multitude was convicted, not so much on the charge of arson as because of [their] hatred for the human race. Besides being put to death they were made to serve as objects of amusement; they were clothed in the hides of beasts and torn to death by dogs; others were crucified, others set on fire to serve to illuminate the night when daylight failed. Nero had thrown open his grounds for the display, and was putting on a show in the circus, where he mingled with the people in the dress of charioteer or drove about in his chariot. All this gave rise to a feeling of pity, even towards men whose guilt merited the most exemplary punishment; for it was felt that they were being destroyed not for the public good but to gratify the cruelty of an individual.”
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Post by Admin on Aug 9, 2016 2:30:59 GMT -5
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Post by Admin on Aug 9, 2016 2:31:13 GMT -5
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Post by Admin on Aug 9, 2016 2:32:55 GMT -5
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Post by Admin on Aug 9, 2016 2:33:14 GMT -5
QUOTES ABOUT JESUS The historian’s test of an Individual’s greatness is: “What did he leave to grow? Did he start men to thinking along fresh lines with a vigour that persisted after him?” By this test Jesus stands first. Christ, Buddha and Aristotle, Readers Digest Supplement: The Examiner, Sat 13 July 1935 p. 4 nla.gov.au/nla.news-article51945346xtoinf.wordpress.com/2015/07/30/greatest-in-history-according-to-h-g-wells/“The beauty of the ragamuffin gospel lies in the insight it offers into Jesus: the essential tenderness of His heart, His way of looking at the world, His mode of relating to you and me. 'If you really want to understand a man, don't just listen to what he says, but watch what he does.” ― Brennan Manning, The Ragamuffin Gospel: Good News for the Bedraggled, Beat-Up, and Burnt Out “Stoning prophets and erecting churches to their memory afterwards has been the way of the world through the ages. Today we worship Christ, but the Christ in the flesh we crucified.” ― Mahatma Gandhi “It is refreshing, and salutary, to study the poise and quietness of Christ. His task and responsibility might well have driven a man out of his mind. But He was never in a hurry, never impressed by numbers, never a slave of the clock.” ― J. B. Phillips More www.goodreads.com/quotes/tag/jesus?page=6 |
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Post by Admin on Aug 9, 2016 2:33:57 GMT -5
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Post by Admin on Aug 9, 2016 2:34:09 GMT -5
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Post by Admin on Aug 9, 2016 2:34:30 GMT -5
"Jehovah your God will raise up for you from among your brothers a prophet like me" - Duet 18:15
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Post by Admin on Aug 9, 2016 2:35:17 GMT -5
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Post by Admin on Aug 9, 2016 2:35:30 GMT -5
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Post by Admin on Aug 9, 2016 2:36:14 GMT -5
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